Little Dot MKVIIIse Power Tube Choices

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Maxx134
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Little Dot MKVIIIse Power Tube Choices

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Hello I have tested all three types:
1-Electro-Harmonix 6H30PiEH Gold Pin
2-Russian SuperTube 6N30P-DR (6H30n-DP)
3-Sovtek 6H30N-EB Cryoset Certified

The "EH" tube has more bass heft and closest Soundstage and most energetic sound.

The "DR" has a bit more dynamic range but thinner bass and overall flatter and a bit more distant.
Treble air was better and it has detailing etch, so not as smooth.

The Soviet "EB" tube is less distant than the "dR", but not as close or energetic as the "EH" tube.
It sounded closest to the neutral DR tube with less impact.

YET..

I have excellent news.

I've have been testing the tubes in various positions and found that using two slightly different tube change can either compliment each others strengths make worse.

So both the "DR" & the Sovtek where combined with an "EH" tube to give more bass impact & energy. .

So in combo sets:
The Dr tubes proved to have a bit more dynamic but lacking in bass authority,
and a bit more Edge,
but in a raspy way..
It portrayed the cello dry and weaker.
It portrayed the piano more distant and sweeter but precense was less .

Cryoset tubes:
cryo tubes had better Bass authority,
and more body/precense to the trebles!

More realistic body to the cello strings,
and certain detail in background was actually made more realistic because of the body it had over the thin treble presentation of that same detail with the DR tube. .

The soundstage on the Cryo tune was a little bit closer, but the piano was more realistic and not laid back as the DR tube.

So it was the MOST realistic combo is THIS EH TUBE WITH THE CRYO TUBE..

In this order:
EH tube on the (left) negative socket,
And cryo on the (right)positive socket.

That combo is unbeatable as it has all the detailing with more body and realism..
Wow I am glad now that I bought these Cryoset tubes.

Alone, neither the EH or the Sovtek Cryoset could beat the expensive DR tube,
But together they can work synergistically adding their strengths to beat the DR.!
:)

DavidZheZhe
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Re: Little Dot MKVIIIse Power Tube Choices

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This will be very helpful for all Little Dot tube rollers so a big thanks for your impressions! You've discovered the hidden gem of being able to use different tubes for even finer control and really bring out the best in both worlds :D

Maxx134
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Re: Little Dot MKVIIIse Power Tube Choices

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DavidZheZhe wrote:This will be very helpful for all Little Dot tube rollers so a big thanks for your impressions! You've discovered the hidden gem of being able to use different tubes for even finer control and really bring out the best in both worlds :D
Your welcome but there is more news..
I was very surprised to find a "drop in" replacement suggested by a friend.
I Google and found an article from "Lampizator" topic about some best tubes.

Basically they said that they like another tube beytwr than the fabled Russian Super tube , and every equipment they dropped this tube performed better.

Here is the link:

http://www.lampizator.eu/UPGRADE/upgrad ... 06H6P.html

IOf course a had to try for myself, and it's true!

Bottom line is I do now recommend this tube as better than the Russian super tube "DR",
As it is more silky in trebles and more holographic than all the others. .

It is the original 6N6P tube, not the latter gold grid pulse version, which I also tried.

This is a HUGE plus, as it is a CHEAPER tube!
It has same parameters/characteristics and is a true drop in replacement,
Except that the plate reasistance is higher,
So the bias meters will show less current,
and it will not be as loud on maximum volume, but that is not an issue as you have your gain switch.

So for now I choose the 6N6P tube for power tube!
Sometimes called 6n6, or 6H6p, as Russian letter " H" is also "N"
At least now we have another option for power tube.
Please try and let me know what you think!
:)
:)

DavidZheZhe
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Re: Little Dot MKVIIIse Power Tube Choices

Post by DavidZheZhe »

Maxx134 wrote:
DavidZheZhe wrote:This will be very helpful for all Little Dot tube rollers so a big thanks for your impressions! You've discovered the hidden gem of being able to use different tubes for even finer control and really bring out the best in both worlds :D
Your welcome but there is more news..
I was very surprised to find a "drop in" replacement suggested by a friend.
I Google and found an article from "Lampizator" topic about some best tubes.

Basically they said that they like another tube beytwr than the fabled Russian Super tube , and every equipment they dropped this tube performed better.

Here is the link:

http://www.lampizator.eu/UPGRADE/upgrad ... 06H6P.html

IOf course a had to try for myself, and it's true!

Bottom line is I do now recommend this tube as better than the Russian super tube "DR",
As it is more silky in trebles and more holographic than all the others. .

It is the original 6N6P tube, not the latter gold grid pulse version, which I also tried.

This is a HUGE plus, as it is a CHEAPER tube!
It has same parameters/characteristics and is a true drop in replacement,
Except that the plate reasistance is higher,
So the bias meters will show less current,
and it will not be as loud on maximum volume, but that is not an issue as you have your gain switch.

So for now I choose the 6N6P tube for power tube!
Sometimes called 6n6, or 6H6p, as Russian letter " H" is also "N"
At least now we have another option for power tube.
Please try and let me know what you think!
:)
:)
Wow that's quite a good find! Thanks for sharing your impressions as this should prove very helpful to owners who are looking to try different power tubes.

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